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I'd love to join in as well, and I potentially know someone else who'd like to join as well, if you'd have us :3 I'm familiar with Pathfinder (though it's been a while since I last played), though unfamiliar with Savage World. With how numbers-crunchy PF can be, I'm willing to learn, though :p

If we remove the whole reyvateil idea out and go more cyberpunk, that's basically it. A future way to help patients with mental health, therapy, etc. That's the benefit we could be thinking about. While it probably does other things but that's the main idea. It's no small fun trip since we dives into someone's memories and trauma, feelings, past, etc. To find about how we can help them. This could, in a way, be the update sale pitch for emiko. Since I think the only way to really find more about her (with how little she talks) is by diving.

Perfect. Also, that could be their slogan. "Bring a trusted partner to mend your mind, with their help you will be able to get fixed and get stronger!"

More "npcs" can be found in a mindspace. Like, if a someone memory is important to the one being dove into. But yes, the diver is only a visitor, really. Also, generally a problem solver. One who seek to deepen a bond or help someone with fixing something. But yes, in one layer, a story unfolds based on feelings and memories. There are a few ways to do this but this is why the cosmosphere is so different from just "visiting one's mind". It's a complex world that can also serve as a therapy for the one being dove into. Get fixed and get stronger.

Oooh Yeah, I think I got it now. They dive and only meet the one being dove into once they find them within that memory. Decisions decisions...

Point is, the subconscious version can sometimes think that they're playing a role in a memory. So they can have a fitting costume or body age for that memory. They are not necessarily WITH the diver in that mindscape. They can be wandering about if that's how their memories play. Only thing that change is how the diver affects that memory... The diver meets with that memory, learning about it. Sometimes, it can involve trying to help that memory solve a quest or a problem. In doing that, you deepen the bond with the person. If you stress the memory or consciousness of the person, it can lead to a bad end of sort and an ejection of the d

Hmm.. I think I understand. They change in the mindscape but not outside, they can be recognized or not(depends on how well the diver can notice certain details like hair and stuff), and the one being dove into can let certain memories happen or not depending on trauma or if they simply don't want the diver to see. Yeah?

Physically yes. BUT only in their soulspace. They're still "conscious" but inside that body. I don't exactly get the full technicality of it but it often comes with a personality and memory fitting of that form as well. Some soulspace event can get very weird but it's like a visit of someone's memory. They CAN or NOT recognize the diver at that moment, etc. Still, a part of their subconscious is aware of what is happening and can let it happen or not. It's very complex on that side but yeah, the person being dove into doesn't exactly control what their soulspace might show. But if the experience goes as planned without eject, it should d

So, if the memory is that of the character as a child, they'd get younger? They pretty much just become the old them during that moment?

Funny thing is. It also changes the "consciousness" form inside the mindscape in the game. Costumes. Lot of costumes. Certain memories could bring different costume on the one being dove into. In some instance, it can also change the "age" of the person as well, if a certain layer of memories visit a past of theirs. But yes, just to say that possibilities go far and beyond there. And as a "diving shop" thing, it's NOT forced on anyone if they don't want to. It's there for people who want to visit and do that. Which, I think, is great for options...?

AP - Adventure Path - a 6 chapter adventure taking you from first level and evolve into a world ending threat ending at level 16-20 Savage Pathfinder - is a mod for Savage World to make it more compatible with the parhfinder playstyle. Less numbers, more flavour, but also less mechanical options

Real quick, anybody know where I can read the stuff for dnd for free? Online I mean. I do wanna get into it but I see everybody has read quite a bit and I didn't know I needed to lol

Well i have played exactly one pathfinder 1e campaign before and it was... very brief, and im not sure what AP means here... nore Savage pathfinder really? But i like playing in new systems so ill be happy to play ^-^

Oh, I figured as much, but I meant that in a, "Dark troubled past or nah?", type of way lol.

So to put something more concrete on the table it'd probably a premade adventure for pathfinder, maybe a simple module first, then an Ap, turned lewd, using Pathfinder first edition rules, or if we want to involve less dice run it with savage pathfinder. I'm familiar with golarion and pathfinder, as well as ran multiple APs so this would likeky the least straining on me.

Basically, a mindscape is the fruit of a person's feelings and memories. If their past were by example filled with sea adventures, a layer of the mindscape may be based on the ocean. Sometimes with area that had strong meaningful memories to the dive person. (Such is why Emiko's coscosphere is NOT exactly a fun place to try venturing into) The "beds" and shops have to be connected to the cosmosphere servers in order to work. When a dive happens, data from the mindscape is saved on the servers for later use. It's generally not for anyone's eyes but the diver and the one who "owns" the mindscape. Cyberpunk future stuff, let's not try TOO h

Oohhhooo~ I am about to get cookin with Maray's past~ What to do for the her mindscape's design...hmm...

In the game, it cost DP (Dive points). Well, that more or less matters in this case but yes. It's a place where everyone can go in hope to reinforce the person being dove into by a journey in their memories, feelings and etc. Feelings can have a "physical" form in their subconscious. So things of the past can manifest and secrets be unlocked IF the person allows it. The higher a person feels trust toward their diver, the stronger the feeling will manifest itself in their subconscious, unlocking different areas and layers. It's beyond being a program. It's controlled by the very feelings of the person and they're always "conscious" since

Lol So it is essentially a public place where people can dive? Kinda like a...massage parlor with tanning beds? Anybody can come by and use for a price, but in this case trust and two people are needed...

Not quite. The bed are not named. As the dive shop implies, anyone can use it to dive into someone else. But you must really come there willingly. I mean, if someone was unconscious and forced to do it, they might still gain their consciousness in their own subspace. And they CAN decide to push back and expell someone out of sheer will. As for Emiko, she is different. Take an AI or a game NPC with an ongoing development and consciousness (Star ocean 3 alert) and make that consciousness come to real life in a real cloned body. That's her. The how and why are not exactly clear yet since SO3 managed to cheat a kind of gate to reality from i

And I assume Emiko has one on standby?

Two beds, mostly. The diver and the partner each have a bed cell (hence why it needs a certain trust) and yeah, it leads to one diving into the other.

Ah, bigass chamber. Got it.

According to Ar Tonelico: "This is done through the usage of a special device called the Dive Machine, which allows scanning the Static H-Wave bands of the Reyvateil and her partner, called Diver under this context, to send the Diver into a world created by the feelings and memories of that particular Reyvateil." Example below, from the game.

What exactly type of hardware is that? An implant? A bed of some sort?