OOC Chatterbox

[Warning]

Funny thing is. It also changes the "consciousness" form inside the mindscape in the game. Costumes. Lot of costumes. Certain memories could bring different costume on the one being dove into. In some instance, it can also change the "age" of the person as well, if a certain layer of memories visit a past of theirs. But yes, just to say that possibilities go far and beyond there. And as a "diving shop" thing, it's NOT forced on anyone if they don't want to. It's there for people who want to visit and do that. Which, I think, is great for options...?

[LEROZERO]

So, if the memory is that of the character as a child, they'd get younger? They pretty much just become the old them during that moment?

[Warning]

Physically yes. BUT only in their soulspace. They're still "conscious" but inside that body. I don't exactly get the full technicality of it but it often comes with a personality and memory fitting of that form as well. Some soulspace event can get very weird but it's like a visit of someone's memory. They CAN or NOT recognize the diver at that moment, etc.

Still, a part of their subconscious is aware of what is happening and can let it happen or not. It's very complex on that side but yeah, the person being dove into doesn't exactly control what their soulspace might show. But if the experience goes as planned without eject, it should deepen the bond between the person who was dove into and the diver.

[LEROZERO]

Hmm..

I think I understand. They change in the mindscape but not outside, they can be recognized or not(depends on how well the diver can notice certain details like hair and stuff), and the one being dove into can let certain memories happen or not depending on trauma or if they simply don't want the diver to see.

Yeah?

[Warning]

Point is, the subconscious version can sometimes think that they're playing a role in a memory. So they can have a fitting costume or body age for that memory. They are not necessarily WITH the diver in that mindscape. They can be wandering about if that's how their memories play. Only thing that change is how the diver affects that memory...

The diver meets with that memory, learning about it. Sometimes, it can involve trying to help that memory solve a quest or a problem. In doing that, you deepen the bond with the person. If you stress the memory or consciousness of the person, it can lead to a bad end of sort and an ejection of the dive program. As I said, it's pretty complex. :P

But yes, traumatic memories CAN be locked by a kind of mental lock. It might be a memory that they try to keep away or hidden to avoid its pain. A diver in this case can HELP ease the pain by solving the problem from within the soulspace. It can be used to mentally heal someone who is going through a trauma or has traumatic scars, etc...

Edited 15 hours ago by Warning

[LEROZERO]

Oooh

Yeah, I think I got it now. They dive and only meet the one being dove into once they find them within that memory.

Decisions decisions... 

 

[Warning]

More "npcs" can be found in a mindspace. Like, if a someone memory is important to the one being dove into. But yes, the diver is only a visitor, really. Also, generally a problem solver. One who seek to deepen a bond or help someone with fixing something. But yes, in one layer, a story unfolds based on feelings and memories. There are a few ways to do this but this is why the cosmosphere is so different from just "visiting one's mind". It's a complex world that can also serve as a therapy for the one being dove into. Get fixed and get stronger.

[LEROZERO]

Perfect.

Also, that could be their slogan. 

"Bring a trusted partner to mend your mind, with their help you will be able to get fixed and get stronger!"

[Warning]

If we remove the whole reyvateil idea out and go more cyberpunk, that's basically it. A future way to help patients with mental health, therapy, etc. That's the benefit we could be thinking about. While it probably does other things but that's the main idea. It's no small fun trip since we dives into someone's memories and trauma, feelings, past, etc. To find about how we can help them. This could, in a way, be the update sale pitch for emiko. Since I think the only way to really find more about her (with how little she talks) is by diving.

[LEROZERO]

I see.

How much time irl(roleplay irl) would each dive be? 

[Warning]

Well, that depends on the roleplayers. I don't make those stories. Just explaining how it works. You dive in their mind, feelings, past. It's up to the roleplayers to set what they see and how they find more about layers. Of course only few know about ar tonelico so I doubt it will be done in any way like I explained it but I guess it's good to dream.

You don't have to spend an eternity in the cosmosphere. This is why Diving points were a thing in Ar tonelico. Every events you trigger cost DPs because such events put a strain on the dove partner's mind. After a while, they need a rest. But yeah, it's really up to the roleplayers. As for Emiko, she is optional. She can just exist as a character.

Edited 15 hours ago by Warning

[LEROZERO]

Ah, got it. 

Could use a small intermission every few memories/events... 

[Warning]

A visit to the dive shop and yeah, have fun after that. Emiko was not planned to come as someone to dive into anyway. COULD be interesting. But yeah. I still have to think about what I want to do with her after this discussion but more and more, I could do something with this idea with some characters of mine. (The digital space mostly, for my part)

[LEROZERO]

Hm. I know I certainly want to use Maray to be dove into, but I don't know when I will be able to apply that...

[Warning]

I could do an introductory post where the company in question releases the system to be used and characters can always go "I'd like to try that." We know how it is if some hologram ads present it. Just an idea anyway. Emiko could always be in the same scene. Just not the same "plot". Notice ads, notice maid girl who looks out of place, things like that.

[LEROZERO]

Hmm...

Maybe the ads are on like...holographic posters in the bar? Could be hung up behind the counter where Maray and others can see easily. 

 

Edited 14 hours ago by LEROZERO

[Warning]

Well, it wouldn't just be posters. My character is a little more professional than that. I was thinking more like a tv ad of sort. Hologram screen ad in such fashion. For now, it's VERY late and I'm afraid that I have to go sleep. Unless I die then I won't be able to post at all. Some sort of big day tomorrow. I guess we will see how this goes later...

[LEROZERO]

Ah, got it.

[SataiRolePlayingGuy]

I did let Gard know he has some stuff to read here when he is back.  He did give a reply, and looks more like an October return now.  After that I gave him a bit of a summary of what we had been talking about, not sure yet if he is familiar with the inspiration like me and Warning.  For now we will see what happens with the downstairs trio, once they get going again and Emiko potentially getting introduced.  Whether any of them go upstairs or not. 

@ChiyakoUp to you of course, if you want to wait for him or not.  Depending on what you want to do, there is the possibility Ryoko could 'distract' Dalton, until he is back.  Letting Evi get up to things.  Or the three can stay as they are, if you would prefer to wait.    I told Gard I would let him know what happens there.

[DreamsnThings]

holy back log, what did I miss?

[SataiRolePlayingGuy]

I threw out a random idea that I thought would fit the story.  Inspired from some fairly old games.  Was not sure if anyone else would know it, but at least Warning did.  She has been doing a good job explaining and considering adjustments that would be needed forthe setting.

[LEROZERO]

Yeah, I liked it quite a bit as well so it sparked one hell of a talk about GOE's world.

[Chiyako]

I don't mind waiting. Evi will chill until Gardsom returns.

[inkylore]

should i respond to the main bar or the upstairs bar?

[SataiRolePlayingGuy]

Everyone upstairs is on pause until Gard is back.  Characters downstairs should get going when Dreams is ready to post again, you could probably write something there though.