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A place to share your controversial thoughts about everything Undertale!
I feel like my opinions could start a war. HERE WE GO!
1: I like Asgore more than Toriel, and I like Flowey more than Asriel.
Yup! I like Goatdad more than Goatmom! I feel like he's more deep and I empathise with him more. I tend to find Toriel too controlling.
I like Asriel. Who doesn't? But I LOVE Flowey. I find him absolutely fascinating. I think he's far more interesting than Asriel.
2: I disagree with most popular ships.
I don't support Soriel. Or Frans. Yup. Not into Sans ships. I don't see him as a dating kind of guy. I prefer Asrie... their child is their ship name...
Really, one of the only ships I support is Alpyne. And it's cannon.
Side note, am I the only one who finds Echotale really discomforting? Why is Frisk in a ripped top with shackles? Makes me uncomfortable to think about it.
3: There are songs I like more than Megalovania.
I love Megalovania. But I love ASGORE more. And Finale. I like them a bit more. No matter what, I'll stand by these as my favourites. Especially ASGORE.
4: I don't like Underfell.
The idea is there! Evil Undertale. That's cool. But the execution is lacking. I think it's a visually boring AU. Everything is red, black, white and yellow. I love colour theming, but this is just too much. I also think Sans is just bad in this AU. I really don't like the direction of his character.
This also goes for Outertale. Cool idea, uninteresting execution. Everyone has the same colour scheme. I like the constellations, but you could do so much more with space Undertale.
If you have any controversial Undertale opinions, post them below! Be civil everyone!
1. the year was 1008. The era of magic and the days where most creatures walked among people without being hated. The king though was a power hungry, war mongering, greedy monster who would hurt and kill anyone who stood in his way or kept him from anything his dark heart desired. One day a child at the age of 17 was discovered but not just any child, a child of incredible power who people claim can perform amazing miracles. Once the king heard of this child he sent guards to retrieve him and when the child's parents stood in their way, they killed his parents and burned the house to the ground but the child escaped. It's been three years since the child went into hiding and the guards found nothing. The king was furious beyond belief so he decided to do the one thing he thought he wouldn't have to. He put out a call to creatures of all kinds and offered each one something they wanted if they brought the child to him alive. Each one wanted something different.
Shapeshifter: she wants the greatest magicians to give her own human form so she doesn't have to wear another persons face.
Shanna the hunter: a license to hunt and kill all rare creatures
Cursed human with uncontrollable strength: curse lifted
Telekinetic: a way to make her older than she really is
Telepath: a part of the kingdom with her own subjects
Troll: for everyone to stop perving and making fun of her
Neko assassin: money
Orc: land meant only for her race
Samurai warrior: labeled to have eternal honor
amazon: to free her sisters from slavery
Reaper with a removable head: a spell to keep her head from falling off
Centaur: land of her own to run in
Arachne: humans to torture for her amusement
Lamia: a nice place that is forever warm and away from humans
Cyclopes: a more mature body
Cupid the archer: to be head of the kings archery squad
Demon warrior: a portion of land to title hell
Dark magician: all the spell books in the world
Fairy queen: repossession of her land
Ex niolo: her own land to be a large garden (powers of nature are connected to untainted wildlife)
Goddess of thunder: her own warriors for ragnarok (after lifting a magic hammer she is convinced that she is thor)
Angel: land to be called heaven
They all came before the king to gain information on the bounty. He was last spotted in the northeast, he looks the same he did three years ago, the person who brings him to the king gets their prize while the others leave empty handed. They were let loose to find the child and the hunt began
2.I was the new ruler of the kingdom of zoraxia and I had just brought peace throughout the world thanks to negotiations and my powerful military. One of my enjoyments was all the fantastical creatures that inhabited the earth. Once the kingdoms that reside on earth heard of my interest they decided to try to stay on my good side by sending me someone that was of their tribe, race, kingdom, or group of slaves. I awaited in my throne room with my wolf companion sighing when they brought in the creatures.
List of creatures:
Genie with no lamp
A creature with a removable head
Cupid of the love fairies
Mummy of the egyptians
Queen of the fairies with two servants
I looked at all of them with wide eyes and a raised eyebrow. I stand and walk around trying to get a good look from all angles as my wolf just sits by my throne watching all of them ready to strike and protect me
"Hmmm.... So many but I can't take all of them... I guess I'll pick,"
3. (young justice roleplay. events happen after season 2)
its been a year since kid flash had died stopping a device from causing havoc on the earth and impulse had taken on the title and the young justice team was still recovering until one day superman and batman called a meeting in the teleport room of mount justice
superman: "thank you all for coming everyone. i called you here to make an announcement."
zatanna: "did something happen super man?"
superman: "we have discovered two meta humans who would be perfect for this team. one is a little young but since they're brothers one won't join without the other"
super boy: "who are they?"
two holograms (like the ones below) appear two show me (the white haired one) and my brother
super man: "their names are john (me) and peyton (brother). one has the ability to transform into a being of shadow and the other a being of immense power but the thing is they dont like transforming into these beings so we would like to bring them here so maybe they can learn to control these abilities."
superboy: "they dont look so tough."
batman: "their powers are off the charts so be careful."
superman: "but dont treat them any different than you treat each other."
the teleport turns on then off as me and my brother walk out of it. my headphones remained on my head as my brother looks around in awe with a wide open mouth while i glanced around with a raised eyebrow
4. (this rp has different five different versions which have the same plot but a different characte. the characters will be captain marvel, she-hulk, power girl, female thor, and medusa (of the inhumans). this one will be about captain marvel. i dont care if your male and you play females. there will be adventure, action, super villains, other heroes (played by me (or you if you want but i will be playing most) ) but there will also be sadness, depression, mental and emotional stress, bullying, abuse, etc. i hope you enjoy this rp or one of the others) (for this rp as captain marvel your personality needs to in some way be: very competitive and self-critical, experience a constant sense of urgency, easily aroused to anger or hostility, to see the worse in others, displaying anger, envy and a lack of compassion. everything else is all you and while this starter has captain marvel as the character, you can choose to be one of the others and i will alter the start so it's that character instead.)
i haven't had the greatest life. OK maybe one of the worst any person could have. my mother died when i was seven but before them the happy memories always had her. my father would always arrive home and beat her till she couldn't stand the take her to his room to have his way while i lay in the corner broken and bruised from the attacks he gave me when i tried to protect mom. she died when he punched her a little too hard causing her to land into the wall in a bad way snapping her neck. i sat there in shock as he takes her body and throws it down the stairs then stands over me
father: "if you tell anyone anything besides she fell down the stairs then i will break your fucking neck you sorry piece of shit."
so thats what happened and thats what i told the cops. my mom fell down the stairs and landed in a way that it snapped her neck. its my birthday and i had just turned 17. for the past 7 years i would read about the super heroes among us and all their adventures but the one hero i always would look up to was captain marvel. one day on the radio i heard about a contest at a convention as a charity event where if you could answer the question that true super hero fans knew then that fan could pick one super hero to go on dates with for a whole week. a week! i saw this as my chance to actually spend a week with my hero! it was in a month so i saved up as much money i could to be able to enter and for the dates but it wasnt much since my father never gave any money so i took any job i could....a lot of them weren't pleasant. the day came and after a beating from my father i went towards the convention getting attacked by bullies along the way. i arrived at the convention battered and bruise gaining many glances from multiple people. i enter myself into the contest as i give the main person the money with trembling hands. after about an hour of failing contestants i was up and they ask the question. when i answered they stood there shocked and i was afraid i gave an answer that was obviously wrong but when they said i was correct i stood there feeling as if im about to faint
boss of the event: "congratulations on answering correctly! now which hero would you like to-"
i scream with so much excitement and at the top of my lungs
me: "captain marvel!!!! err...i mean....."
i hang my head looking down at the floor embarrassed at what i just did
me: "c-captain marvel sir...."
captain marvel was in the back of the group of heroes messing with a hologram quietly chatting with puck who is up in the space station which is home for the ultimates and alpha flight. when she hears her name her head perks up as the other heroes step aside snickering at her confusion
captain marvel: "wait me? why not she-hulk or thor or even storm? dont you think you want one of them and i mean im a very busy woman and-"
the boss leans over close to her and whispers
boss: "you signed a contract saying you would do it even if you thought you weren't going to be picked. he chose you so go up and talk to your date."
she sighs as she slowly walks off the stage through the crowd and stands a bit taller than me. right when she focuses on me her eyes widen at all my injuries and steps back a bit
captain: "oh my god what happened to your- i mean hey umm... cutie? whats your name?
me: "i-im joseph maam.... i-i guess you're my date?"
captain: "that's right our dates start tomorrow so where would you like to meet for our first date?"
me: "w-well th-there is this carnival thats happening in central park so maybe we could start there? my treat."
captain: "its a date then. ill meet you there at five o'clock sharp. don't be late."
i smile happily and hurry off to get myself cleaned up for the date tomorrow. despite the beating that night i got in my nicest (and non ripped) clothes, grabbed some flowers, and went to the carnival arriving 10 minutes before 5. i waited.... and waited.... and waited..... and waited.... but she never showed up. i got an unknown call on my phone which was her saying that she was busy with something so she had to miss the date and told me to show up at the carnival tomorrow. i did exactly that but no show and she told me the same thing. every day the same thing happened and i prayed she would show up having hope that she would show. on saturday night i got the same call so i went home. meanwhile she went into the station where captain america was waiting for her
marvel: "hey cap! whats up?"
cap had his arms crossed and that strict angry look that a drill Sargent gives before he makes you clean the bathroom with a toothbrush
marvel: "is something wrong?"
cap: "you didnt show up for a single one of your dates."
marvel: "well its not my fault! every day there seemed to be an emergency that needed me"
aurora: "actually we told you multiple times we didn't need you and to go on your date but you wouldn't listen"
marvel: "not now aurora"
cap: "you need to honor your contract so the week is starting over and you are not to answer any emergencies unless it is an end of the world event. that is an order"
the next day she showed up at the carnival but i wasn't there. after waiting two whole hours she starts to fly back up to the space station but pauses know that cap will just tell her to find me and then start the week over. after contacting alpha flight she finds me and heads to my house (this is where you start as captain marvel or one of the other heroes)
5. you are the famed erza of the fairy tail guild. You had just accepted a mission to shut down a slave market but what you didn't expect was to find me in such a horrible condition. I was beaten and bruised past the point of survival and it seems one of the punishments they gave me for disobeying was removing my eyes and replacing them with bandages. I was in an unconscious state when you found me and when I awoke in a hospital room at the guild I sat up and look around blindly and afraid
Me: "hello? Anybody there?"
Ezra: "youre safe now. You're no longer at the market"
Me: "you bought me?"
Ezra: "I rescued you"
Me: "thank you mistress"
6. general Jackson: "whats the progress on subject sentry?"
lieutenant Gordon: "nothing sir. he seems to be inactive. as you can see in the video feed he is just in the corner. he might be still traumatized when we took his one eye to see if we could possibly drain some power for it but that's when we discovered that he has no powers in his normal form. he also refuses to tell us anything about his powerful form."
in one of the many surveillance computers was me in an empty white room. i had my legs close to my chest under my chin as i have lost my shoes from a transformation. i had bandages from over dozens of shots along with burns, cuts, bruises, and a trembling body from the many experiments they used on me
general: "hmmm.... we should have someone interact with him. get me our best agent. offer her anything she asks as long as she agrees. maybe we can figure out the limits of his powers, where they came from, and how we can turn it into a weapon."
a group of soldiers came into my room for a new 'experiment' then start burning and hurting me violently but no matter what they do i didnt scream. i had lost the need to scream
meanwhile in the surveillance you came in to talk to the general about your new job. you glance at the camera showing the guards leave then back at the general showing no emotion at the sight
7.my name is jollox and im a resident of the inhuman city on the blue area of the moon. The inhumans are a race of advanced humans that when exposed to a alien mist at a certain age gain incredible unique powers. I was about 6 when I was deemed ready to enter the mists. My queen medusa came to watch the ceremony ever since our lord black bolt died saving us. When I saw her enter the room my heart fluttered and I grew excited because of the honor she made me feel from her presence. I ran up to the entrance to the mists excitedly and against ceremony then ran into the room. It was nothing like I imagined and I start to scream in pain at the process. When I awoke I found myself at the age of 17 and they explained their readings showed that I can control matter, summon incredible strength, control gravity, and fire energy blasts. I changed back to 6 and they said that I turn 17 whenever I want. My queen was intrigued so she decided to take me in as her own. Its been three weeks and i was smiling as i hide from medusa.
8.war. It all started with a never ending war between the heroes of overwatch and the terrorists of talon. I would watch in awe as the great hero tracer would speed by or in wonder when mei would slide on her ice above. That was... Until that fateful day...
Mom: "honey. Come sit at the with us so we can eat."
I stare out the window of our apartment building looking confused then walk over to the table sitting down with a sad look in my face
Mom: "what's wrong dear?"
Me: "usually tracer speeds by our house by now...."
Dad: "I dont get why you like those agents. They are supposed to be outlawed, shut down, and removed of their gear."
Me: "they only came back to fight those talon agents who attack so many people just for the heck of it."
Brother: "he likes watching her speed by because he likes seeing her backside"
my brother giggles as I glare at him. All of a sudden the ground shakes as a boom goes off in the distance. Mei comes crashing through our wall as the booms get louder. I quickly run over to her as my family scrambled to get out of the building while I push mei to safety. The building starts to collapse and I get under the marble table praying for it all to be ok when the building comes crashing down. I awake a few hours later crawling out of the rubble coughing and gasping to see a couple banged up overwatch agents, toppled buildings, and dozens of ambulances being filled with injured and dead. The cyborg ninja, genji, sees me and pulls me out of the rubble with a bit of strain then sits me on the end of an ambulance. I look around nervously
Me: "mom? Dad? P-peyton? Where are they?"
Genji: "where were they when the building fell?"
Me: "i-i think they were on my floor. The fifth floor... Is mei ok?"
Genji: "agent mei is fine thanks to you but other than her.... I believe you are the only one who survived in that building... Im sorry."
I sit there with wide eyes filled with shock and tears then start to cry as genji hugs me as gently as he can. After an hour of searching for known relatives and finding none he and the other agents decide to take me in as a sign of gratitude
9. it was the middle of the night. I was asleep in my bed having a strange dream about monsters and creatures that lived among humanity but the sad thing was that I believed I was the only one of my kind. You see im a shapeshifter.... Well partially. I can change into a kitten, teen, or child but I love to stay in the form of a child because it makes me feel myself except my father doesnt approve of me using my abilities and hurts me whenever I do seeing me as a freak. The next day is where my story begins
(This separates into multiple different rp stories that are all sexual but arent straight to sex. For some foot fetish must be ok and please dont plus one if you like it. I hate when people plus one and dont comment. If you wish to do more than one story then I will gladly share them to you and we can do all them at once. Just list the numbers of the ones you want and ill pp you them. You come up with the names for the monsters. I also can include other monsters. Ignore the info on the pics with info on them)
1. Snake woman: I was walking through the woods when I saw something scaly glint in the light. I walk over to investigate when I feel something rub against my leg and a red blurr wraps around me and pulls me to the ground. I groan with blood running from my forehead and look up to see a girl thats human to her midsection but a red snake tail below staring at me (you are the snake woman and youve lived in fear of being found and hurt by humans. You grew curious as you saw me one day and noticed I was different. You can make it she doesnt know english or she does)
2. Mouse girl: I woke in the middle of the night hearing a loud mix of a squeak and a scream. I get out of bed quickly and run over to the sound which happens to be a small girl but with a rat tail and ears caught in a mousetrap at the waist. I stare at her in awe then gently reset the trap and pick her up in my hands
3. mummy: I woke up the next day to find my father had bought an actual sarcophagus and decided to put it in my room laying it right next to my bed. That night the sarcophagus started banging around and out rose a mummy. I stare at her in fear as she stares at me then sits on my bed look around curious about the entire room
4. Giant: It was the next day when the ground shook. I ran outside and saw trees being pushed aside as a giant holding an enormous mace towers above me when my dad comes marching out and screaming how he cant believe there are more freaks like me
5. Monster whose head falls off with ease: I awake with a start when I hear a person swear in my room and see something rolling in my room. I walk over to the roundish object then pick it up to discover it was a head!!!! I scream dropping the head in panic (you were planning to assassinate a human as a sign of revolte but then.... Your head fell off)
6. Elf: I went adventuring into the forest to see if maybe my dream was a sign of something when all of a sudden I walk into a deep part of the woods growing scared and sad then an arrow comes flying past me into the tree and I transform into a kitten out of intense fear
7. Red orc: when I awoke from my dream I found myself in a cave trapped in a skin sack and I see a red orc devouring what appeared to be my father. She looks directly at me and smiles
8.mermaid: I arrive at the market the next day to maybe find a slave who is like me when I see people gathering around a certain area. I run over and witness an actual mermaid on sale. After some bidding I finally buy her and then I walk over to the glass nervously
9. Cyclops: I awoke from my dream to hear the sounds of screams nearby and the scent of smile filled the air. I run out of the estate and into the woods to see what the noise was to find bandits attacking a village of cyclops and there was one with a war hammer and flaming blade staring angrily at a large group of bandits but they easily slap her weapons aside and start ripping at her clothes. I run over and step in front of her saying this was my property and they are to leave which they do with all the cyclops except the one behind me
10. Cupid: the goddess of love was a mischievous one. She kept pulling pranks on the gods making them fall in love with random things until they had enough. I was asleep in my room when they sent her down to earth and claimed me as her master
11. Fairy queen: I awoke to find a fairy queen standing at the foot of my bed with two smaller fairies and speaking in a different language using a begging tone trying to hide from hunters
12. Troll: my father had returned one day with a troll being dragged behind him as he laughed. He said he finally found a freak like me and she was mine to do as I pleased then he kicks her to me
13. Vampire: as I slept I felt something biting my neck and when I woke I found a vampire moaning softly as her fangs were in my neck sucking on my neck. I turn into a kitten and hurry under the bed
14.Pharaoh: I awake the next morning to see a beautiful egyptian woman standing at the foot of my bed. My father was there playing with her hair saying she was my new servant
15. Unicorn (half woman half horse but with a horn on her head): I hear the sound of hooves on my floor and awake to find a unicorn in my room who kneels and says I was to be whatever I wanted to be to her
16. Demon: I started to have a nightmare and wake to see a woman floating beside my bed holding a book. I was afraid at first and because of that she was confused
17. Amazoness: I went into the woods and climbed up a tree to see a beautiful amazoness and stare in awe until I see her sword inches from my cheek
10. it's been 10 years since a warlord named proxima midnight took over the earth. I was one of the last super humans on earth that survived the super massacre. I was a young boy with the ability to shapeshift into different versions of myself with different personalities but I stayed as a young boy most of the time.I spent most of my life locked in a cage when her highness proxima came to visit and took me as her servant/slave for entertainment and combat training.
11. I am a demigod, A mortal who is the child of a god or goddess. I am the child of a powerful and ancient god in a world that is watched over by only goddesses so that give me any hint over who my father was. The goddesses were always intrigued by the human race so they watched us many times but never could understand much about us. One day the queen of the goddesses (goddess of reality) chose to have each of the goddesses interact with a mortal so they can learn more about the modern world and the mortals so I was chosen. I have the ability to change form and summon many different powers for many different situations but also my forms develope their own personalities. They all agreed with the queen seeing this as a way to mess and have fun with the mortals in their own ways. I was on my way home from the store when I look down an alley to see the first goddess (or goddesses) I will meet
List of goddesses:
Goddess of beauty
Goddess of speed and messengers
Goddess of monsters
Goddess of war
Goddess of power
Goddess of honor
Goddess of heroes
Goddess of giants
Goddess of love
Goddess of nature
Goddess of magic
Goddess of light
Goddess of wildlife
Goddess of the hunt
Goddess of thieves
Goddess of strength
Goddess of reality
Goddess of death
Goddess of mischief
Goddess of the weather
Goddess of minds
12. it was a cold, dark, and dreary night at the home of a rich company owner who's company stole money from the people who barely had money and uses it to gain stocks so they can gain more money. I was a young kid who had no idea what his father did and spent most of his time trying to make friends but was ignored or hated. One night while everyone was asleep elektra the dangerous assassin silently broke into the house we lived in and went to kill my father. Right after the job was done I had walked out of the kitchen from getting a glass of milk when I see you and freeze h-hello....
13.it all started when the world was invaded by extraterrestrial warriors. they killed all our soldiers and wiped out our armies to the point we had no way of fighting back. most of humanity was left to live about their lives under the eyes of their new rulers, the (insert name here), but there was a catch. every couple months some humans would be chosen to be taken the mother ship and be presented to the queen as slaves then one will be chosen to be hers. i was torn from my family at the age of twelve and trained to be the perfect slave but in the process i gained a childlike personality that pops up every once in a while. once i turned 17 i finally was out of the training/torture room, put with the other slaves, and on my way to meet my possible new queen/mistress (choose whatever type of alien you wish to be)
14. all people think that beach city is the best place ever where everyone is happy. It isnt. My father is an alcoholic who beats me any chance he has while smiling and being nice to everyone else. When people ask about my injuries he just explains them by blaming them on clumsiness and bullies and self harm. The people found me trouble so they would avoid and ignore me. I felt truly alone for many weeks till I saw the crystal gems and that half gem boy who was with them. He seemed so happy with them despite that fact he was always in danger. Everyday I would escape my father and run to their temple to see him and the gems but they would either be on a mission, out, or one of the gems would tell me to leave as they were uneasy about my scars. one day i ran away from home and hid in an alley way until one day a gem found me. (you can choose who that gem is)
15. "Let me go! Please someone let me out!!!"
I scream banging against the electrified energy shield that keeps me from escaping the cell I am in. A jasper walks over to the energy shield and growls softly but then quickly changes to calm almost as if she were afraid then uses her arms and hands to make the shape of a diamond
Jasper: "Im sorry, my diamond. I have orders by another to keep you in this cell. Is there anything I could get for you?"
Me: "oh I don't know. Maybe a soda, some chips... Oh I know. Let me out of here and send me back home!"
the jasper just stares at me as she presses a button then a soda and chips appear in front of me
"Anything else my diamond?"
Me: "why do you call me that?"
Jasper: "we had our scans set for searching for a lost diamond and we found you. We grabbed you while you were on the way to something called a job interview whatever that is then saw what was on your chest my diamond."
Me: "wait what's on my chest?"
I lift my shirt up to see a white diamond and scream in fear at the sight scrambling around grabbing the diamond trying to pull it out of my chest but it seemed fused to my skin
Me: "where did this come from?!"
the jasper stumbles back a bit startled
Jasper: "W-we believe that when you made physical contact on our ship it removed some cloaking that hides the diamond from view."
I stare at it in shock when I hear a voice in the cell next to me
???: "what?! You're telling that kid is a diamond?!"
jasper's attitude changes suddenly as she walks out of view and punches the wall
Jasper: "shut up ruby! You're lucky we don't shatter you and sapphire! Bad enough that you two stay fused when together but also fighting with the crystal gems is enough for shattering."
she walks back in front of me putting her arms behind her back
Jasper: "Anything else my diamond?"
Me:"n-no.. Thank you"
the jasper had a look of confusion at the thank you then walks away. Once she is out of earshot I walk up to the energy shield and call out to the ruby who was in the cell in my right and the sapphire who was on my left
16. my family wasn't the most normal family... In fact it's the exact opposite. It all happened one day when a bunch villainess came together to defeat their enemies. But what they didn't expect was they'd find a child on their doorstep after three years since they first came together and they decided to raise it. Yep that was me.... I was the child. They all interacted with me in some way but later on they enrolled me in school and discovered how I can change between teen and child but luckily it was before I started going to school. My family consisted of livewire, blackfire, giganta, silver banshee, bumblebee, terra, cheetah, star sapphire, talia al ghul, poison ivy, domino, madelyne pryor, enchantress, shanna the she-devil, black cat, catwoman, lady deadpool, gwenpool, mystique, and Emma frost, a female alien, and harley quinn Every once and awhile they would go away for some time to I dont know where. Back in the present I was sitting on the branch of a tree giggling as I hide from poison ivy
17.in a world where angels and demons existed was a world of hide or be sold. Angels and demons used to battle each other over humanity until one day a demon influenced humanity into hunting both races. Just about all angels and demons have been captured and sold as slaves until one day a one of a kind angel was found, me, a multi-winged angel. People from all over came to see me in a cage but I wrapped my wings around me with my eyes filled with tears of sadness and rage then I was shocked by a cattle prod so I would spread my wings out so I did it and hang my head. You were in town today hearing about the new angel and go to the market to see me
(choose which you would like to be)
1. Scientist: you are a famous scientist who didnt believe angels and demons were all they claim to be so you've been studying them never having the money to actually buy one until I was discovered because you had made enough money through your research even though you found no proof of angels and demons being different from what we claim to be.
2. Demon: you are the demon who influenced the humans except you are disguised unless you are in your house.
3. Spoiled mistress: you are a rich woman who wants the best of everything so you hurried into the market to buy me
4.collector: you are a collector of magical creatures who collects them for entertainment.
5. Other: if you have any suggestions just say. )
Hello fellow Dreamers,
This year is coming to a close, and there have been some pretty major updates on EcchiDreams that have been aimed at making things easier and giving roleplayers more control over their roleplays. This update has been focused on overhauling the guide section and bringing it up to date, and doing the same for the homepage. This announcement will cover all of that, but at the end of the announcement we have something that's pretty serious that we need to put out there; I don't think it's going to be well received, but it is what it is.
This announcement will cover:
New Guides Section Refreshed Homepage for both Guests and Logged in Dreamers Dropping Twitter Sign In and the effective closing of our Twitter Account Club Permissions Finalised Depictions of Minors in Nude or Sexual Situations (A rather serious topic) New Guides Section
We are pleased to announce the opening of our new guides section, which replaces our old "Community Tutorials and Guides", and brings in our new "EcchiDreams Guides". This has a vastly updated interface, and splits guides down into sections that are more relevant for reading, cutting the larger guides down into smaller pieces which will be less daunting to read. The Community Tutorials and Guides was brought in early September 2016, and was announced in this update:
We have updated and re-written most of the guides in the section, so that they're accurately representing the new format of EcchiDreams. For example: Roleplay Clubs rather than "Public Roleplays", and so on. We've also updated the Account and Profile settings guides, so that you can get a hands on manual for basic account settings management, setting up your profiles, and securing your account. This is a vast improvement over the old section, and over time we hope to be able to keep it up-to-date, and add more guides to it.
Check it out, and let us know what you think: https://ecchidreams.com/help/guides/
Refreshed Homepage for both Guests and Logged in Dreamers
The EcchiDreams Homepage (https://ecchidreams.com) has been updated. The guest viewing of the page now has the correct information relating to the roleplays, and provides an accurate summary of what you can do in terms of the Club Roleplays, as well as linking to our current guides section. There have also been a number of fixes and optimisations site wide; all little things that kind of add up. The logged in page is objectively more useful too. We've included a handy little Dreamer Widget that displays personalised information such as your posts and reputation count, as well as a welcome message (plus something light hearted under it that changes every hour), and quick links to various places around EcchiDreams. We've added some touch ups here and there, and done away with the news taking up most of the screen; instead putting up "Our Picks" alongside the seven most recently active clubs on EcchiDreams. "Who Was Online" and "Who's Currently Dreaming" have been added to homepage too.
On a side note:
The Roleplayer Preferences has been updated to include something that a Dreamer had suggested (Grammar and Spelling Competence Preference), and has had the out of date fields removed completely. We might be looking at expanding the fetish list in the Roleplayer Preferences at some point in 2018. We're also trying to acquire the funds to completely overhaul the section, so that it looks better and is easier to read and fill out - this doesn't have a date on it as of yet. Terms of Service has been updated, to clarify that Clubs are included in areas of enforcement. We'd like to state clearly, on the record, that even if you set your club to Private, Staff can still see it for Terms of Service Enforcement. Dropping Twitter Sign In and the effective closing of our Twitter Account
I don't want to make a long statement about this, or a big song and dance; but it does affect EcchiDreams. As of last week, we've locked our Twitter account (set it to private), effectively closing it down; we have also removed Twitter as a Sign in Option from EcchiDreams. This partly has something to do with their most recent policy change, for our own reasons, and the way Twitter is being managed in general. They can run their site the way they choose to. We can choose not to be associated with them anymore. We've also never really used the account either, and its only parroted postings to our Facebook page. That was its one and only job, and it couldn't even do that properly... So we ended it. It has nothing to do with anything else. We're not planning on becoming a voice of inciting violence or hatred against... well... Anyone. Even Twitter.
Club Permissions Finalised
We've finally finalised the club permissions for people you make staff of your club(s). I would like to stress again that Community Staff can see all Clubs on EcchiDreams - even Private Clubs. We've made a pretty simple table below, that displays clearly what the permissions are.
Permissions Club Moderators Club Administrators Club Owners Pin Content
This makes a topic within the club appear at the top of the topic listings, much like how pinning content works on the Forums.
This demotes a topic within the club from appearing at the top of the topic listings. The topic will be listed normally when unpinned.
Hiding content hides a post, image, or topic (for example) from appearing to other club members.
View Hidden Content
Allows your club staff to see hidden content. To help stand out to club staff, the hidden content will appear highlighted in red.
Locked content cannot be replied to by your club members, which is great for setting rules and such. It also allows topics that are finished to be locked, as an archiving tool.
The ability to unlock content that was previously locked. Not usually needed, unless (for example) there is an event that opens on specific days.
Reply to Locked Content
Allows your club staff to reply to content that is already locked. Useful because it means you don't have to unlock it, reply to it, and then lock it again.
Add Features to Club
Adding features to the club such as a calendar, topics page, gallery, and so on.
Editing already existing features on the club like a Gallery Page, Topics Page, and so on.
Can Promote Members to Administrators/Moderators
Self explanatory; this is the permission that sets who can make people staff.
Invite Dreamers to Club (Closed/Private)
Usually for Closed and Private Clubs; allows your staff to invite Dreamers from the community to your club and/or roleplay.
Remove Members From Club
The ability to remove members from the club; this could be for a whole host of reasons. But, if your club is open (not Private or Closed), nothing stops the Dreamer from rejoining.
*Potentially Destructive* Editing other people's posts, images, and so on, that have been posted. If you edit a post, it will come up at the end of the post that it was edited by you.
*Potentially Destructive* The ability to move content within clubs they are a moderator, administrator, or owner of. This is disabled across the board.
This is disabled due to technical limitations. Please consult a member of the Community staff to have content unhidden for you, and please be clear as to what you want unhiding (by posting a link to it).
*Destructive* The ability to permanently delete people's content. This is disabled across the board. If you want something deleted, please speak to a member of the Community staff.
Split and Merge Content
*Potentially Destructive* If you have posts, for example, that are posted one after the other by the same person in the same topic, you can merge them; this requires the ability to edit content. For the meantime, this is disabled.
These permissions are for in the clubs which the Dreamer is staff of, and do not extend out of the clubs to the rest of the community. To date, if you have a club that you want to delete, you still have to contact a member of the community administration to do it for you.
Depictions of Minors in Nude or Sexual Situations
Lastly... Lolicon, Shotacon and the like, has not been allowed on EcchiDreams for a very long time. in fact, around this time in 2013 I made a topic about it, explaining why it wasn't allowed on EcchiDreams. I don't want to be too negative or harsh, and I want to keep my personal biases out of it, so I will just stick as closely to the facts of the matter as possible.
Computer Images, Drawn, Generated or otherwise (Depictions) of those that are under 18 (Minors), Nude or in Sexual Situations, are in fact illegal in the following countries: Australia, Brazil, Canada, Finland, France, Italy, Japan (somewhat, I'm not sure), Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, South Africa, Sweden, the United Kingdom and the United States.
[UK Law]:- Coroners and Justice Act 2009 - Sections 62 to 68 - It's classed as a "Pseudo Photograph" which is "an image, whether made by computer-graphics or otherwise howsoever, which appears to be a photograph". [US Law]:- 18 USC 1466A - (Source 2) - Where it is stated as clear as day: "In General - Any person who, in a circumstance described in subsection (d), knowingly produces, distributes, receives, or possesses with intent to distribute, a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that—(1)(A) depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; and (B) is obscene; or (2)(A) depicts an image that is, or appears to be, of a minor engaging in graphic bestiality, sadistic or masochistic abuse, or sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex; and (B) lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value; or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be subject to the penalties provided in section 2252A(b)(1), including the penalties provided for cases involving a prior conviction." Just for Information and Reference, as it might tell you which laws they are in the other listed countries, I am not holding this as reliable source, but the above mentioned are linked to reliable sources (The horse's mouth as it were). Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_drawn_pornography_depicting_minors Our Stance on it Historically
EcchiDreams was originally set up by KC (@Casey's Administration); she was the original owner of the site back then, and was certainly more well funded than I am. Originally, she let everything except Gore (and I think also Vore) to be posted up, because she absolutely allowed all things artistic. This was in 2006/2007, back when I was just someone who helped out and helped with development/coding, those kind of things. After just a few months, she ran her original Terms of Service past a legal expert in the United States (as she was an American Citizen) and, after talking about it, there was some changes made; very quickly that kind of content was also banned, before the site even launched. I had vocally protested the stupidity of it at the time, but I wasn't an actual member (I couldn't register until 2008 - when I was 18), so it didn't really matter.
The rule was kept in during the Second Administration (near the end of 2008) under Illogically Logical, despite her incompetency and lack of enforcing any rules (she was barely online), she kept this in the Terms of Service. (Those that have been around that long know that I don't have many nice things to say about the Second Administration).
Things very quickly changed in 2010 on a relaunch of the site under a third administrator: The NekoLust Administration. It became a Zero Tolerance Offence and anyone posting it was banned immediately, no ifs, ands, or buts. The Terms of Service were draconian, to say the very least.
Under my Administration (sometime after 2011 to the present day), I've relaxed the ToS a lot, and scrapped all but three Zero Tolerance Rules. Despite this, it is still a Major Infraction (like a Felony), and carries 50-75 Points that expire after a year; also coming with some restrictions, such as all posts made by the offending account will be placed on a Mod Queue. This is something that adds work for us, so as you can imagine we don't want to do that on a whim. Despite this, I also have an unwritten clause; that is that First Time Offenders do have some leniency given to them for certain offences, and this is one of them. But repeat offenders could face heavy warnings, and eventual ban. I think this is firm, but fair.
Today, it is a violation of sections: 8.2 (the last part), 15.1 (because it is Illegal), and 18 (general Gallery rules) of our Terms of Service.
So with this in mind...
In the past few months we've had a fair few Dreamers that have posted such content, and we've upheld our Terms of Service, dealing with it appropriately under the credo "Firm but Fair". In all recent cases we've shown leniency (0-10 infraction points for ones that aren't so obvious, 25 for obvious depictions of minors in nude or sexual situations, all of which expire in six months from the warning, but have no restrictive actions) because all of them are first time offenders.
However... All of them this year, with exceptions to just one or two of them, have responded to these infraction points by going completely nuts! I mean completely off the deep end, like a child throwing a temper tantrum. A number of them start acting with either passive-aggression (which is what it is) or, even less acceptable, extreme hostility towards our staff, just for enforcing the very same Terms of Service that we all agreed to when we registered, and it's something that seems to be getting objectively worse. On the past five occasions since September, some have even gotten down right abusive towards our staff (Violation of Section 20.2). It's a disproportionate response to that kind of infraction. It's like like going nuclear just for getting a parking ticket, and it's become a bit of a concerning pattern.
Let me make this absolutely crystal clear;
If it looks like a child or someone under 18, or is tagged on popular imageboards as being Lolicon/Shotacon or similar, or if canonically the person is under 18 and they are nude or in a sexual situation, then err on the side of caution and do not post it here. It's really not that hard. We understand that "looks like" is subjective, which is partly why there is leniency for First Time Offenders. If you can't talk to us about it like a rational adult upon getting infraction points on your account (IE: melting down like a child not getting their way), then consider going somewhere else. I have enough to deal with; and as I said in 2013, I don't want the drama. I am certainly not willing to risk my freedom by allowing that content here, either. We don't "Hate anyone" who posts it, we don't "Hate it" and we're not trying to be "A Bitch" or (my personal favourite) "Anti-Loli Nazis" about it, but the Law is the Law, and I can't just decide to allow it. It's regarded in our country as being practically the same as Child Pornography. That's a heavy prison sentence right there, and far reaching consequences for the rest of my adult life. Why is it fair that I should be demanded to take that kind of risk, exactly? If you don't like the fact that's illegal in your country, you're going to have to take that up with your legislators. Until it's no longer illegal in the US and the UK, it's not allowed on this site. I am not risking EcchiDreams or my freedom over this. If the legality of it doesn't bother you, or you're somewhat unconvinced of the actual laws I've literally cited, then consider this: We pay the server fees and licence fees, so we get to decide what is and isn't allowed on our site... And depictions of minors nude or in sexual situations isn't allowed. We totally have that right, just like you have the right to go somewhere else if it bothers you that much. Lolicons and Shotacons that aren't sexualised, in a sexual situation, or naked (no genitals on display) are allowed here. That's not banned at all. Roleplaying it, as far as I am aware, is legal, as it comes under free speech/expression. We as Staff aren't trying to get everyone restricted, suspended, or banned, but we do have to enforce our Terms of Service; no one is exempt from them. We don't give out special favours, not even to friends or ourselves. Accept it and move on, or go to another site. We'd be happy to Section 21 your account for you (Terminate/Deactivate it upon request), just shoot us a message in the contact form, or by EcchiTexts to any of the Community Administrators, tell us you want your account to be closed, and we'll close it. No fuss, no hassle, no begging for you to stay, no questions asked!
And just to correct a commonly touted fallacy: Just because we're a Hentai friendly site doesn't mean we have to accept depictions of minors nude or in sexual situations at all. For example: Konachan is an Anime/Hentai Image Board that doesn't allow Yaoi (last time I checked). It sucks but that's their prerogative, just like this is our prerogative. They pay their server fees and they get to decide what is and isn't allowed there, just like we pay ours and we get to decide what is and isn't allowed here.
I'm seriously not trying to be an "Anti-Loli Nazi" about it, but I am fed up of seeing my staff, who work here voluntarily (completely free) on a website that is completely free of charge, getting abused by those that can't take the smallest of infractions, who can't accept responsibility or accept when they're in the wrong; it's always someone else's fault. I don't want to make it a Zero Tolerance Offence again; I hope that people can start being more adult about it. By all means come and talk to me about it calmly. I will explain myself calmly in return. But as the law stands: It is what it is.
I hope this issue can be put to rest once and for all. I don't want any more repeat incidents of categorical abuse being leveled against any of my staff from now on. That's out of line, and I will not accept it; they don't deserve that.
Source: Dao Dao
I had picked this image because the UK (where I live) is going through a cold snap at the moment, and it kind of just felt right. It's got no one in it, and it's a very neutral picture. It's quite dark and yet it feels cold too. I think it is a very well drawn piece of artwork, and I might just check out Dao Dao's page to see what their other art pieces are like.
Also welcome back to @Casey who was the very original EcchiDreams Administrator, it's good to see you again.
Hi, It's Zoey!
I'm looking for RP partners, I prefer to play females/traps and as a sub, but I am willing to do other roles
I'm open to most kinks and plots so if you want to try something please EcchiChat me!
Hope to see ya around lovelies! -Zoey