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Funny thing is. It also changes the "consciousness" form inside the mindscape in the game. Costumes. Lot of costumes. Certain memories could bring different costume on the one being dove into. In some instance, it can also change the "age" of the person as well, if a certain layer of memories visit a past of theirs. But yes, just to say that possibilities go far and beyond there. And as a "diving shop" thing, it's NOT forced on anyone if they don't want to. It's there for people who want to visit and do that. Which, I think, is great for options...?

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Physically yes. BUT only in their soulspace. They're still "conscious" but inside that body. I don't exactly get the full technicality of it but it often comes with a personality and memory fitting of that form as well. Some soulspace event can get very weird but it's like a visit of someone's memory. They CAN or NOT recognize the diver at that moment, etc.

Still, a part of their subconscious is aware of what is happening and can let it happen or not. It's very complex on that side but yeah, the person being dove into doesn't exactly control what their soulspace might show. But if the experience goes as planned without eject, it should deepen the bond between the person who was dove into and the diver.

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Hmm..

I think I understand. They change in the mindscape but not outside, they can be recognized or not(depends on how well the diver can notice certain details like hair and stuff), and the one being dove into can let certain memories happen or not depending on trauma or if they simply don't want the diver to see.

Yeah?

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Point is, the subconscious version can sometimes think that they're playing a role in a memory. So they can have a fitting costume or body age for that memory. They are not necessarily WITH the diver in that mindscape. They can be wandering about if that's how their memories play. Only thing that change is how the diver affects that memory...

The diver meets with that memory, learning about it. Sometimes, it can involve trying to help that memory solve a quest or a problem. In doing that, you deepen the bond with the person. If you stress the memory or consciousness of the person, it can lead to a bad end of sort and an ejection of the dive program. As I said, it's pretty complex. :P

But yes, traumatic memories CAN be locked by a kind of mental lock. It might be a memory that they try to keep away or hidden to avoid its pain. A diver in this case can HELP ease the pain by solving the problem from within the soulspace. It can be used to mentally heal someone who is going through a trauma or has traumatic scars, etc...

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More "npcs" can be found in a mindspace. Like, if a someone memory is important to the one being dove into. But yes, the diver is only a visitor, really. Also, generally a problem solver. One who seek to deepen a bond or help someone with fixing something. But yes, in one layer, a story unfolds based on feelings and memories. There are a few ways to do this but this is why the cosmosphere is so different from just "visiting one's mind". It's a complex world that can also serve as a therapy for the one being dove into. Get fixed and get stronger.

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If we remove the whole reyvateil idea out and go more cyberpunk, that's basically it. A future way to help patients with mental health, therapy, etc. That's the benefit we could be thinking about. While it probably does other things but that's the main idea. It's no small fun trip since we dives into someone's memories and trauma, feelings, past, etc. To find about how we can help them. This could, in a way, be the update sale pitch for emiko. Since I think the only way to really find more about her (with how little she talks) is by diving.

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Well, that depends on the roleplayers. I don't make those stories. Just explaining how it works. You dive in their mind, feelings, past. It's up to the roleplayers to set what they see and how they find more about layers. Of course only few know about ar tonelico so I doubt it will be done in any way like I explained it but I guess it's good to dream.

You don't have to spend an eternity in the cosmosphere. This is why Diving points were a thing in Ar tonelico. Every events you trigger cost DPs because such events put a strain on the dove partner's mind. After a while, they need a rest. But yeah, it's really up to the roleplayers. As for Emiko, she is optional. She can just exist as a character.

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A visit to the dive shop and yeah, have fun after that. Emiko was not planned to come as someone to dive into anyway. COULD be interesting. But yeah. I still have to think about what I want to do with her after this discussion but more and more, I could do something with this idea with some characters of mine. (The digital space mostly, for my part)

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I could do an introductory post where the company in question releases the system to be used and characters can always go "I'd like to try that." We know how it is if some hologram ads present it. Just an idea anyway. Emiko could always be in the same scene. Just not the same "plot". Notice ads, notice maid girl who looks out of place, things like that.

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Well, it wouldn't just be posters. My character is a little more professional than that. I was thinking more like a tv ad of sort. Hologram screen ad in such fashion. For now, it's VERY late and I'm afraid that I have to go sleep. Unless I die then I won't be able to post at all. Some sort of big day tomorrow. I guess we will see how this goes later...

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