Allow users to delete EcchiText messages.

[TheShyestGuy]

Look, I get it, you don't want people deleting stuff willy-nilly. If they could, I'm sure people would purge entire conversations.

Might I suggest going the route that Messenger did, and only allowing people to delete a message within maybe a day or so after it was sent?

I forever live through the pain of people sending a new message in a private roleplay instead of just editing the old one. It shuffles the entire dynamic and makes me confused on who actually started the conversation without manually jumping all the way back to page one.

Pls fix, thx.

[Novaer]

Doesn't leaving the conversation remove that EcchiText from your folder? I thought that’s how it used to work. Clearly, something along the way has changed.

Our reason for not liking people deleting things 'willy-nilly,' as you put it, doesn't apply to EcchiTexts, so it was never intentional that this stopped, and it wasn't something we changed. That being said, I’m happy to look into it.

[TheShyestGuy]

@Novaer I don't mean the conversation as a whole.

Note the title: "Allow users to delete EcchiText messages."

AKA, a single message within a conversation.

[IsabellaRose]

It seems like that's a really good way for abusive messages to get deleted before anyone can prove they were sent.

[WritesNaughtyStories]

I don't think that matters - you can edit EcchiTexts. So any abusive message could be altered before it could be proven to be abusive.

I expect that when you report a message slot generates a copy of the message for admins, so deleting (or editing) a message after it's reported won't matter either 

[IsabellaRose]

Oh, okay then. Consider my comment retracted (since it can't be deleted lol.) Clearly I don't get a lot of abusive messages on here. 

[WritesNaughtyStories]

Neither do I. Like none.

[IsabellaRose]

That's because you're awesome.

[Gidgy]

I would like to request an occasional abusive message. Where do I submit the paperwork’s?

[Pixel]

3 hours ago, Gidgy said:

I would like to request an occasional abusive message. Where do I submit the paperwork’s?

I gotchu, bitch.

[Novaer]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this matter. I understand the frustration that comes with the inability to delete individual messages within EcchiText conversations, and I appreciate you bringing up this concern.

To clarify, the ability to delete messages was intentionally disabled during the previous administration. I’ve had a meeting with them to discuss the reasoning behind this, as there were significant issues that arose from allowing message deletions. One individual, in particular, took it upon themselves to criticize the previous administration, claiming they were "soft on harassment." However, that assertion was not only inaccurate but also deeply misleading. In reality, whenever harassment cases were reported and there was clear evidence, the harasser was banned without appeal. This was a strong and decisive response, and no one was given a free pass when there was proof of misconduct.

The issue arose when people deleted individual messages, or when harassment occurred off-platform, making it difficult to investigate fully. As per our Terms of Service, specifically Section 10 on Evidence Policy, we require that victims make repeated requests for the harasser to cease and desist, and we need evidence to build a case. While this may seem like a burden, it is in place to ensure fairness and to avoid wrongful accusations. As you may know, any evidence that’s not directly tied to EcchiDreams or our Discord server is not considered, and this is why we can’t act on external evidence.

One of the safeguards put in place by the previous administration to strengthen Section 10 was to prevent the deletion of EcchiText messages. When a message is deleted, it’s gone permanently—there’s no backup or copy that we can retrieve. This became painfully clear in a recent case (As we're still putting up with it today, in other areas), where a report was made about an alleged incident, but by the time we were able to address it, the content had already been deleted. Without the evidence, we were unable to take action.

While I understand your desire for more control over message management, I must be clear that I have no intention of re-enabling the message deletion feature. The ability to delete messages, unfortunately, creates more risks than benefits in ensuring that harassment is properly dealt with and that we have the necessary evidence to take action when needed.

Thank you for your understanding.

[Pixel]

I was among individuals vocal in the past during my early days here about how soft it seemed staff was on certain users too, until I learned that people do literally everything except report issues, when I was under the impression that it was common sense to do that before literally anything (not all that common, it turns out). I was wondering if it had to do with making sure there was evidence for issues, too. I don't delete individual messages because I thought, as mentioned above, that there was likely ways to find those messages anyways, so I didn't even know it wasn't possible (I think..?). It makes enough sense to me personally tho, especially when I've unfortunately had to report before when I have the user multiple warnings to back off and that user had changed things up after previous issues to "hide", I'd hate for it to look like I was screaming into the void if the user tried to delete those messages after I told em they ran out of chances.

Protection of users definitely wins over minor inconvenience.

Edited yesterday at 12:29 AM by Pixel

[Gidgy]

I’ve been on other sites. And recently I tried some discord RP servers! I’ve had abuse on basically all of them! I was always nice, but littles tend to be triggering for some people, and they get judgy and lash out.

That’s never happened a single time here. So whatever you’re doing to make this place safe and fun and at least for me it’s been drama free except for the RP. So keep it up!

I also RP exclusively in Ecchi Chats and didn’t notice you can’t delete a message because I’ve never needed to do it. You can always edit and clear a message if something gets out of order like in a 3-part convo. But I’ve never gotten lost in the convo.

Perhaps the OP is RP’ing vastly different though and I just don’t gets it.