Monsterhearts

[roll to seduce]

Does Selene know any adults she could reasonably convince to buy her alcohol?

[DreamsnThings]

So I rolled to manipulate derek with the information about him being a wannabe motherfucker, im planning to twist the words to frame it that theres gossip going around that he said that well drunk and one of his friends let that slip well he was wasted... can i use the 5+6 i rolled +1 from hot to get him to owe me one and get a string for "letting him know"

[roll to seduce]

You only ever roll when you're performing a move.

This sounds like shutting someone down. You're taking power from him.

That's with cold, so unless you have a -2 in cold you can get a string on Derek with that. 

[Chiyako]

42 minutes ago, roll to seduce said:

Does Selene know any adults she could reasonably convince to buy her alcohol?

I suppose the only person she really knows who might fit that category might be her boss at the Baja Surf Stylings shop. Which she would probably only ask if she knew he was laid back enough to consider it.

Which I suppose means she'd probably move onto Plan B: the search for Charlotte!

[DreamsnThings]

7 minutes ago, roll to seduce said:

You only ever roll when you're performing a move.

I thought manipulate an npc was a move?

Or are you saying lying to his face to get him to owe me was a different move?

[WickedCadrach]

10 minutes ago, DreamsnThings said:

I thought manipulate an npc was a move?

I just looked it up, and this was from the 1st Edition sheet. 

It looks like they got rid of Manipulate as a basic move. Now the idea is that Strings are how you tempt and try to entice NPCs to do what you want, and if you want Strings, you gotta Shut Someone Down or Turn Someone On (or do something unique to your Skin's moves). 

I think our MC's right that even if you're framing this like you're on his side and looking out for him, it's still putting him on guard and cutting at his ego and probably fits a Cold roll with Shut Someone Down better. (Thought with your stats, I believe you still pass, so yay!)

Use the first page of this sheet. It's the current rules-set
https://buriedwithoutceremony.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/reference-sheets-and-core-skins1.pdf

[roll to seduce]

Every common move is posted in the character repo by @WritesNaughtyStories

On top of that you might have some skin moves. Outside that you do not roll any dice.

 

[DreamsnThings]

5 minutes ago, roll to seduce said:

Every common move is posted in the character repo by @WritesNaughtyStories

On top of that you might have some skin moves. Outside that you do not roll any dice.

 

...oh fuck , guess i found the one "other" difference between 1e and 2e monsterheart x.x my whole strategy was based around a move that got removed 

[WickedCadrach]

2 minutes ago, DreamsnThings said:

...oh fuck , guess i found the one "other" difference between 1e and 2e monsterheart x.x my whole strategy was based around a move that got removed 

That is bad luck, sorry I didn't catch that comparing the sheets earlier  

On the plus-side, I still think Velvet can be manipulative like you've imagined her; it's just a little mechanically different to get us on the same page. 

[DreamsnThings]

Welp... fuck...

well uh... is it too late to pick the other stat spread? Im realizing i kinda... badly fucked up x.x"

[WickedCadrach]

8 minutes ago, DreamsnThings said:

Welp... fuck...

well uh... is it too late to pick the other stat spread? Im realizing i kinda... badly fucked up x.x"

Personally, if nobody else minds, then I don't. We're in the opening scene and still kinda learning the game. (Plus, you have a convenient opportunity to update when putting Velvet in the Character Repository thread.)

[Chiyako]

I wouldn't mind. I mean the game is still fresh and you haven't technically really done any rolls yet, I believe.

[DreamsnThings]

. . . welp never mind, cold was the stat for infernal that starts -1... no matter what QnQ... FACK

...what does tempting someone to do what you want entail under pulling strings?..

My entire plan is kinda out of the window XD

[Chiyako]

Tempting someone is offering them an experience point in order to do something you want them to do. For one of the MC's characters they will tell you what sort of thing (bribe, coax, threat, etc) it might take. If it's not something they can do in the scene then they can agree to do it later, and whether or not they end up doing it later is up to them.

[DreamsnThings]

so no stats involved there at all, gotcha

[WritesNaughtyStories]

15 minutes ago, DreamsnThings said:

. . . welp never mind, cold was the stat for infernal that starts -1... no matter what QnQ... FACK

...what does tempting someone to do what you want entail under pulling strings?..

My entire plan is kinda out of the window XD

Roll +hot to turn someone on - that gives you a string. The stat line you have gives you a +1 hot. Pulling a string allows you to take a +1 on a roll against someone or tempt them to do something they want.

But, don't be afraid to roll a bad stat - failing let's you mark experience. And it's very unlikely you'll be out of the story, no matter how bad things get. Unlike D&D a fail isn't a disaster, it just means the story doesn't go the way you say.

[WritesNaughtyStories]

Shit! Fuck! Shitfuck! (everyone go watch Blind Fury with Rutger Hauer for context)

I meant to ask - what's everyone think Dylan finds at the thrift store? I really have no idea how they're "plumbed" but a bikini might answer some questions, Dylan's as much a mystery to themself as they are to me, so I'm open to suggestions.

[Chiyako]

2 minutes ago, WritesNaughtyStories said:

Shit! Fuck! Shitfuck! (everyone go watch Blind Fury with Rutger Hauer for context)

I meant to ask - what's everyone think Dylan finds at the thrift store? I really have no idea how they're "plumbed" but a bikini might answer some questions, Dylan's as much a mystery to themself as they are to me, so I'm open to suggestions.

I imagine, especially since this place is in perpetual summer, Dylan could probably find bikinis, one pieces, and shorts galore.

However I imagine the funniest thing to find would be a mankini.

[WritesNaughtyStories]

7 minutes ago, Chiyako said:

However I imagine the funniest thing to find would be a mankini.

You know, I don't hate that. What if they have kind of non-committal little boobs that might just be Dylan being really soft but could just as likely be breasts, and they show up in a mankini. Like, I know that it looks kind of like the murder in an Agatha Christie novel in terms of ridiculous stretch, and it might push too close to slap stick, but it is tempting.

Shorts and a tight tank that reveal a kind of "mystery bust" kind of gets to the same place without the potential silliness. Again, thoughts? I don't want to hijack the game with unintended silliness.

Edited April 8 by WritesNaughtyStories

[WickedCadrach]

5 minutes ago, WritesNaughtyStories said:

I meant to ask - what's everyone think Dylan finds at the thrift store? I really have no idea how they're "plumbed" but a bikini might answer some questions, Dylan's as much a mystery to themself as they are to me, so I'm open to suggestions.

Beach town thrift store? Dozens of colorful shirts from festivals, restaurants, and local attractions (probably every version of Playland's merch T-shirt from the last two decades). Same with bucket hats. Beach kimonos, everything from tiger-stripe to slick black with gold kanji prints. Also, everything that retirees living in the area have cleaned out (there's no way Potter's Neck doesn't have a minimum of two retirement communities). Old-Testament-esque sundresses, zoot suits, and the odd pair of parachute pants. 

Those are what leap to my brain anyway. 

[Chiyako]

1 minute ago, WritesNaughtyStories said:

You know, I don't hate that. What if they have kind of non-committal little boobs that might just be Dylan being really soft but could just as likely be breasts, and they show up in a mankini. Like, I know that it looks kind of like the murder in an Agatha Christie novel in terms of ridiculous stretch, and it might push too close to slap stick, but it is tempting.

Shorts and a tight tank that reveal a kind of "mystery bust" kind of gets to the same place without the potential silliness. Again, thoughts? I don't want to hijack the game with unintended silliness.

I think shorts and a tank top is the safer option, yeah, although I don't mind the comedy of a mankini.

Could also rock the best of both worlds. Bikini under shorts and tank-top.

That said if Dylan couldn't find something they could ask one of their friends for help too.

[WritesNaughtyStories]

@Chiyako, where is Selene? I don't know if Dylan has a phone, though they should get one. 

But I think @WickedCadrach has a good idea beach kimono in black rayon with gold kanji over a black camisole and some MC Hammer harem pants. It feels like their aesthetic. Does Dylan run into Selene on their way to the thrift?

[DreamsnThings]

45 minutes ago, WritesNaughtyStories said:

Roll +hot to turn someone on - that gives you a string. The stat line you have gives you a +1 hot. Pulling a string allows you to take a +1 on a roll against someone or tempt them to do something they want.

But, don't be afraid to roll a bad stat - failing let's you mark experience. And it's very unlikely you'll be out of the story, no matter how bad things get. Unlike D&D a fail isn't a disaster, it just means the story doesn't go the way you say.

I apreciate the help ^-^... sadly its looking like our MC is... 100% right, the way I was wanting to use velvets main strength is Via a cold roll in MH2... which uh... doesnt line up stat wise it seems xnx im currently panicking to figure out how to make my mental vision line up with the mechanical side DX

[WritesNaughtyStories]

I think rolling +hot to get a string does the same thing as rolling +cold to manipulate, just with a bit more flavor.

You're still tricking them, just by making them think you want them, not them to do what you want. Mechanically, roll +hot, pull a string gets you the same result, and, of your intent is to deceive, it's every bit as cold.

[DreamsnThings]

so I am probably over reacting frankly

im going to go have a snacko and brood on this a little, its a bit different from what I was going for, but it'll probably be able to work if I tweak the approach

... now how do I roll hot well trying to take advantage of the fact that he wants to be a motherfucker...